Farmakomafija

Piše: Luka Mihajlović

Moderna farmaceutska industrija predstavlja jednu od najprofitabilnijih grana privrede. Samo u toku 2006. godine globalni profit od prodaje lekova iznosio je 660 milijardi dolara. Sa porastom standarda društva u celini i sa globalizacijom tržišta industrija zdravlja je dobila prostor za masivna ulaganja u nauku, a sa ciljem proizvodnje.

Pronalaženje novog leka je složen proces. Ideja o tome da je svaka supstanca otrov, a da efekti zavise od doze poznata je od srednjeg veka. Kroz istoriju su glavni izvor biološki aktivnih supstanci koje su korišćene u otkrivanju novih lekova bili prirodni izvori - biljke, životinje i mikroorganizmi. Moderan koncept ispitivanja lekova je uspostavljen tek krajem 60-ih godina, nakon afere sa lekom "talidomidom".

Talidomid

Talidomid je razvijen u Nemačkoj i od 1957. do 1961. prodavan je u preko 50 zemalja pod raznim imenima. Lek je izdavan za sprečavanje jutarnje mučnine i kao blagi sedativ za trudnice. Pre izdavanja leka nisu izvršeni adekvatni testovi. Ispostavilo se da je ova supstanca snažan teratogen (agens ili supstanca koja može da izazove fizičke defekte kod embriona ili fetusa kada je majka izložena dejstvu te supstance) kod čoveka, zeca, primata i pacova. Od 1956. do 1962. oko 10.000 dece rodilo se za ozbiljnim deformitetima, najčešće sa fokomelijom, kongenitalnim poremećajem koji uzrokuje pojavu izrazito skraćenih udova koji liče na peraja.

Kao odgovor na ovu tragediju u SAD i drugim zemljama doneti su stroži zakonski propisi o testiranju lekova. Odgovornost za puštanje leka u promet pada na nemačku kompaniju Grünenthal (koja nije priznala odgovornost), a sudski proces je i dan-danas u toku.
Moderna farmacija: kliničko istraživanje

Afera sa "talidomidom" i osvešćenje javnog mnjenja dovelo je do pooštravanja propisa o testiranju neželjenih dejstava lekova i doveli su ga do oblika koji je i danas u upotrebi.

Osnovni pokretač napretka u farmaciji jesu prodori u biomedicinskim naukama koji dovode do identifikacije poremećaja koji objašnjavaju uzroke bolesti. Nakon razjašnjavanja molekularne patologije odredjenog stanja, pristupa se dizajniranju leka, procesu koji je danas praktično automatizovan i sprovodi se koristeći se kompjuterskim simulacijama i kombinatornom hemijom.

Kombinatorna hemija


Kompjuterskim simulacijama se traži klasa struktura koje bi mogle da ostvare željeno dejstvo. Kada se ovakva klasa struktura uspostavi, pristupa se sintezi ogromnog broja jedinjenja (upotrebom metoda kombinatorne hemije). Ovakav pristup se naziva, u nedostatku odgovarajućih termina na srpskom - skrining visoke propusne moći (eng. - High Throughput Screening - HTS).

Kombinatorna hemija je grana organske sinteze koja se bavi paralelnim sintetisanjem ogromnog broja (desetine, čak i stotine hiljada) sličnih jedinjenja. Postupak je u potpunosti vodjen robotima i računarima i omogućava tzv. brute-force pristup - rešavanje odredjenog problema iscrpljivanjem svih mogućih strukturnih rešenja.

GPCR


HTS pomaže farmaceutskim kućama da brzo pronadju strukture potencijalnog leka, pri čemu se štede velike količine novca u prekliničkim ispitivanjima.

Na primer, ako je željena metaklasa ćelijskih receptora poznata kao GPCR, svi potencijalni lekovi će biti paraleleno testirani na sposobnost da inhibiraju ili stimulišu dati receptor.

Još jedna bitna funkcija HTS je ispitivanje selektivnosti jedinjenja za odredjenu metu. Interakcija lekova sa različitim molekulima u organizmu, a koji nisu željena meta, dovode do nuspojava, koje su često neprijatne, a ponekad i veoma opasne. Idealan slučaj predstavlja jedinjenje koje interaguje samo sa željenom metom, ali ne sa drugim, sličnim molekulima.

Nakon prve baterije in silico i in vitro ispitivanja vrši se selekcija supstanci sa željenim osobinama, čije se dejstvo zatim utvrdjuje testovima na životinjama (koji su za sada neizostavan deo procesa) i, u skorije vreme, na kulturama ćelija. Od početnih nekoliko stotina hiljada jedinjenja do faze testiranja na životinjama dodje nekoliko stotina ili desetina. Testiranja na životinjama se uvek izvode na nekoliko vrsta, a obavezno na miševima i majmunima. Doze koje se koriste u životinjskim testiranjima su višestruko veće od potencijalnih terapeutskih doza.

Nakon uspešno završenih studija na životinjama, tokom kojih su ispitane moguće nuspojave, kao i farmakokinetika i delotvornost potencijalnog leka, pristupa se prvim ispitivanjima na ljudima.
Faze kliničke studije

Klinička studija se izvodi u nekoliko faza. Svaka faza je pažljivo dokumentovana i pod strogom inspekcijom nadležnih regulatornih organa. Studije se sprovode kao tzv. dvostruko slepe studije, što podrazumeva da ni lekar ni pacijent ne znaju da li je pacijent primio supstancu koja se testira ili blanko pilulu - bez aktivnih materija. Kod teških oboljenja se, iz etičkih razloga, umesto pilule bez aktivne materije, koristi najbolji postojeći lek za dato stanje. Ovakav pristup je neophodan da bi se isključilo dejstvo placebo efekta kod pacijenata, kao i subjektivnost lekara.

Faza 0 podrazumeva malu studiju na ljudima, sa nekoliko subjekata (do 10), gde se preliminarno utvrdjuje efekat leka na ljudski organizam. U ovoj fazi najčešće dolazi do ispoljavanja neželjenih dejstava, koji zbog različitih razloga nisu primećeni tokom životinjskih testova. Najpoznatiji primer i, nažalost, jedan od najdrastičnijih dogodio se prošle godine.

Supstanca TGN1412 je testirana kao tretman za veći broj patoloških stanja, uključujući autoimune bolesti, a sa posebnim značajem u lečenju nekih vrsta leukemija.

Umesto da dovede do smanjenja intenziteta ćelijskog odgovora, ova supstanca je dovela do povećanja intenzitet imunog odgovora i stanja poznatog kao "citokinska oluja", čime je efektivno, imuni sistem napao ćelije nesrećnog domaćina. Svih 6 dobrovoljaca koji su učestvovali u studiji doživeli su ozbiljne komplikacije, prestanak rada više organa i, iako je stanje stabilizovano, svima su ostale trajne posledice. Naknadna istraga je utvrdila da nije bilo proceduralnih grešaka, i da je ovakav ishod studije nesrećan slučaj koji se dogodio zbog neočekivane razlike na molekulskom nivou izmedju čoveka i makaki majmuna na ključnom koreceptorskom molekulu CD28.

Molekul CD28


Faze 1 i 2 kliničke studije obuhvataju postepeno povećanje doza i broja tretiranih pacijenata. Ako se ustanovi da je lek efektan, i da su neželjeni efekti (a kojih uvek ima) blagi, kao i da nisu opasni po život pacijenta, prelazi se na fazu 3 kliničke studije.

U ovoj fazi ustanovljavaju se interakcije ispitivane supstance sa drugim lekovima i hranom, kao i neželjeni efekti koji nisu otkriveni u ranijim fazama. Nakon toga se kompletna dokumentacija kliničke studije dostavlja nadležnom organu, koji, nakon što utvrdi da su svi uslovi ispunjeni, dozvoljava plasman leka na tržište. Lekovi koji su prošli treću fazu ispitivanja često se mogu naći na tržištu i pre izdavanja zvanične dozvole, ali pod posebnim uslovima, kao što su mogućnost iznenadnog povlačenja u slučaju ikakvih neželjenih efekata.

Faza 4 kliničkog istraživanja predstavlja praćenje dejstva leka koji je formalno pušten u promet i može da traje i do 10 godina nakon prvog pojavljivanja leka u prodaji. Cilj ovog nadgledanja je da se detektuju eventualni retki ili dugoročni efekti na mnogo većoj populaciji pacijenata i tokom dužeg perioda nego što je to bilo moguće tokom faza 1-3 kliničkih studija.

Neophodnost 4. faze može se predstaviti i skorim povlačenjem sa tržišta leka Vioxx.
Vioxx

Rofekoksib je nesteroidni antiinflamatorni lek koji je razvila kompanija Merck za tretman osteoartritisa, akutnog bola i dismenoreje. Lek je odobrila Agencija za hranu i lekove (FDA) u maju 1999. i pušten je na tržište pod imenom Vioxx i Ceoxx.

Rofekoksib suprihvatili lekari koji su lečili obolele od artritisa i drugih stanja koja uzrokuju hronični i akutni bol. Širom sveta, u jednom momentu je ovaj lek koristilo 80 miliona ljudi.

Vioxx

U septembru 2004. Merck je dobrovoljno povukao rofekoksib sa tržišta zbog briga oko povećanog rizika od infarkta srca i šloga. Naknadne analize su pokazale da rofekoksib povećava rizik od infarkta srca čak 4 puta. Prihod Mercka od prodaje rofekoksiba tokom 2003. iznosio je 2,5 milijardi dolara.
Rak modernog društva

Ranije u tekstu je pomenuto da razvoj leka traje 3-10 godina. Nažalost, plasman leka na tržište ne odredjuje samo rok završetka kliničke studije, već i različiti ekonomski faktori - koliko je prošlo od izdavanja prethodne generacije leka za isto stanje, da li konkurencija vrši studije u sličnom pravcu itd.

Tema o kojoj se ne priča mnogo jeste otkriće efikasnih lekova za odredjena stanja čije je plasiranje na tržište ekonomski neisplativo. Početkom januara tekuće godine tim naučnika iz Kanade objavio je da supstanca dihloroacetat (DCA) vrlo efikasno uništava ćelije raka pluća, mozga i srca. DCA je s hemijske strane banalna supstanca, čija proizvodnja je izuzetno jednostavna i jeftina. Jedini problem je što je se ova supstanca već veoma dugo koristi za lečenje retkih metaboličkih poremećaja, i kao takva, ne podleže patentiranju. Nijedna farmaceutska kuća nije htela da finansira kliničko ispitivanje jer im se jednostavno - ne isplati. Vrlo brzo, u roku od nekoliko nedelja, vest o ovom otkriću je procurela i ljudi su nabavljali DCA kako su znali i umeli i sami se lečili, što je dovelo do ne malog broja problema i komplikacija. Promet DCA danas kontroliše FDA, a početkom oktobra je odobrena klinička studija koju sprovodi tim naučnika koji je i otkrio efekte ove suptance na rak. Studija će biti finansirana od javnih donacija.

Sličan slučaj, a opet u vezi sa lečenjem najstrašnije bolesti modernog doba - kancera - odnosi se na upotrebu tzv. Colley toksina - proizvoda odredjenih bakterija koji indukuju pojačanje imunog odgovora i pospešuju organizam u borbi protiv malignih ćelija. Iako je dejstvo ovih supstanci poznato već stotinak godina, još nisu u planu kliničke studije, usled nemogućnosti patentiranja i odredjenih etičkih aspekata potencijalnog tretmana.

Iz svega navedenog da se zaključiti da je put od ideje do leka dugačak i vijugav.

Pre nego što jedan lek dodje do faze kliničke studije u prekliničkim studijama se testira se oko 1000 potencijalnih supstanci, a u proseku je potrebno oko 8 godina i do milijardu dolara da bi lek prešao put od ideje do apoteke.

Još jedan, ne tako popularan zaključak, jeste da u priličnom broju slučajeva zahtevi tržišta preovladjuju nad zahtevima humanosti. Da bi se ova pojava sprečila potrebno je prosvećenije javno mnjenje, kao i odgovarajuća pravna regulativa koja će ograničiti postupke farmaceutskih kuća.

Sve u svemu - ne uzimajte sami lekove, slušajte lekare, budite pametni!
Zašto ne treba piti antibiotike za lečenje glavobolje

Najčešči mehanizam rada antibiotika je inhibicija dejstva nekog enzima, što znači da dejstvom antibiotika sprečavamo bakteriju da proizvodi neki molekul bez koga ne može da preživi.

Bakterije stiču rezistenciju nasumičnom mutacijom - s vremena ne vreme se pojavi bakterija koja ima izmenjen baš onaj deo molekula na koji antibiotik utiče, čime se efektivno poništava dejstvo ovog leka. Srećom, ovakve mutacije su relativno retke. Problem nastaje kada se antibiotici uzimaju na način koji je drugačiji od propisanog, pa se bakterijama daje šansa da razviju rezistenciju. Nepravilnim uzimanjem antibiotika se efektivno selektuju bakterije koje su otporne na njegovo dejstvo Kad se to dogodi, odgovarajući mutant može da se množi do mile volje, dok antibiotik vrlo efikasno uništava konkurenciju, oslobadjajući ekološku nišu. Za veoma kratko vreme(2-3) dana može da dodje do eksplozivnog razvoja rezistentne bakterije, koja sada napada sve dostupne organe, dovodeći do stanja koje se naziva superinfekcija. Kako je bakterija sada rezistentna, postavlja se pitanje izbora antibiotika, kao i mogućnosti tretmana. Ova stanja u pojedinim (ne tako retkim) slučajevima, dovodi do smrti pacijenta. Čak i kada ne dodje do ovakvih, drastičnih problema, ovakvo postupanje dovodi do nastanka sojeva bakterija koje su rezistentne na odredjeni antibiotik, pa sa vremenom dolazi do toga da antibiotik prestaju da bude delotvoran. Penicilin je 1943. ubijao 100% populacije bakterije Staphylococcus aureus. Prvi slučaj rezistencije je uočen već 1947, a danas je soj ove bakterije poznat kao MRSA apsolutno rezistentan na penicilin, i još nekoliko desetina korišćenih antibiotika.

Ne uzimajte antibiotike bez posete lekaru, i držite se rasporeda uzimanja tableta!

http://www.b92.net/zivot/nauka.php?nav_id=280022

NATO's Kosovo War, 11 Years लाटर

Kosovska nereguralna vlast pripremila tortu za Klintona i time potvrdila sledeće-
KLINTON JE POJEO SAMOGA SEBE....
TO ISTO OČEKUJE SE OD SVIH KOJI SU ATAKOVALI NA SRBIJU ,NJEN NAROD I SRPSKE SVETINJE!

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NATO's Kosovo War, 11 Years Later
The Lord Byron Foundation for Balkan Studies ^ | March 23, 2010 | Ambassador James Bissett
Posted on 24. mart 2010 15:01:56 by Ravnagora
Eleven years ago NATO opened its bombing campaign against Serbia, illegally and without provocation. It started on March 24, 1999, and continued for 78 days and nights. It was the most intensive air offensive suffered by any country since the end of the Second World War.
Over a thousand people were killed and the civilian infrastructure of Serbia was destroyed, but it proved unable to degrade the Serbian military. It caused far more suffering than it prevented. For the first time since its founding the North Atlantic Alliance, led by the United States, acted in violation of its own treaty and the United Nations Charter by using violence to resolve an international dispute. This illegal act marked a historical turning point and was a fatal step in dismantling the framework of peace and security that had governed international relations since the end of the Second World War. It set precedents that will continue to plague international affairs for years. The bombing also revealed a disturbing reality that has continued to haunt us: the ease with which our democratic countries can be led into committing acts of violence and war by political leaders prepared to tell us lies.
President Clinton, Prime Minister Blair and other NATO leaders told their citizens that the bombing of Serbia was a humanitarian intervention to stop President Milosevic of Serbia from committing genocide and the ethnic cleansing of the Albanian majority in Kosovo. This of course was not true: forensic times have found some 2000 victims of the Kosovo conflict so far – Serbian and Albanian, civilian and military – who had been killed prior to NATO’s air war in March 1999. Distressing as this figure may be, it is not genocide. Nevertheless, the accusations that genocide took place in Kosovo continue to be accepted without hesitation by the western media.
The claim about ethnic cleansing was also a falsehood. While it is true that several thousand Albanians had been displaced within Kosovo by the armed conflict between the Serb security forces and the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), the large-scale exodus of the Albanian population occurred after the bombing started. United Nations figures show that the mass of refugees fled Kosovo after the first bombs began to fall In other words, it was the bombing that caused the flight from Kosovo. Despite the proof of this we continue to hear in the western media that the NATO bombing “stopped ethnic cleansing.”
In reality the bombing of Serbia had nothing to do with genocide or ethnic cleansing. The bombing had everything to do with demonstrating that NATO was still a viable military organization and was needed in Europe. There is ample evidence now to show that the United States and British secret services aided and abetted the KLA in its efforts to use violence to destabilize Kosovo and to create the excuse for NATO intervention.
The Kosovo crisis and the 78 day bombing campaign against Serbia was from the outset a carefully planned fraud. Because bombing people for humanitarian reasons was an obvious contradiction, it had to be portrayed as an urgently needed rescue mission to stop the “genocide” that was allegedly taking place in Kosovo. This was done by a highly organized publicity campaign designed to deceive a compliant media and a gullible public that Milosevic was evil and that the Serbs were barbarians who had to be stopped. Hailed as the man who brought the Bosnian war to a conclusion at Dayton four years earlier, he was now depicted as the “butcher of the Balkans” and conveniently charged by The Hague War Crimes Tribunal as a war criminal. The duplicity and the deception which reached their height during the bombing itself has continued to this day.
The subsequent policies followed by the United States and its NATO allies have not only continued to be based on falsehood and hypocrisy, but also continue to pose a threat to world peace and security.
The heart of the problem has been what appears to be a determination of the United States policy makers, whether Democrat or Republican, to look upon the Western Balkans as their special fiefdom where international rules of conduct do not apply. It is as if they regard these Slavic lands as lesser breeds without the law, and therefore can do with them whatever they deem desirable. This hubris has lead the United States and the obedient but morally bankrupt leaders of Germany, France and Great Britain to follow wrong-headed policies such as the bombing of Serbia and the recognition of Kosovo independence – and to do so without scruples.
Perhaps it is too much to hope for that the critical financial problems faced by the United States and many European countries will curtail their meddling in the affairs of smaller nations and give them pause to reflect that the rule of law applies to all and that international disputes must be resolved without the use of force. This is the hope – however tenuous - expressed by our Foundation's members, friends and associates on the eleventh anniversary of the bombing of Serbia.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bombing; christiangenocide; clintonlegacy; clintonlied; killingformuslims; kosovo; nato; peopledied; serbia; troopshome4xmas; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongwar


1 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:01:57 by Ravnagora
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“It’s just not cool to protest Clinton’s wars” - Janeane Garofalo


2 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:02:58 by dfwgator
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Clinton targeted civilians. He is a War Criminal.


3 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:03:14 by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...


4 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:03:34 by Ravnagora
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clinton lied and many died.
a war where clinton ordered the bombing of civilians I expect the anti war crowd and the media to be going mad at this and demand him to be put on trial
oh wait silly me he’s a D, he can kill people, lie, cheat, steal according to the media


5 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:04:55 by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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Clintoon helped the islamization of Europe!
Typical libtard
Carter helped the islamization of Iran....
And we are still facing the consequences


6 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:11:10 by Ulysse (a)
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Serbia got on the wrong side of a Clinton BJ!


7 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:13:03 by Mr. Right Now
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Serbia got on the wrong side of a Clinton BJ!


8 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:13:20 by Mr. Right Now
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The first day in my adult life that I was ashamed to be an American....I’ll never forget what the Klintons and Albright and Company did to this country and my family living there


9 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:14:00 by MadelineZapeezda (Promoted by God to be a mother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...................Thanks, Susan!)
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Sorry to say this to you but justified or not (i still think it was but anyway...) it´s time that the serbs start
to accept that Kosovo is lost because this is the reality and it will not change, no matter if you don´t like it, think that it was not justified or whatever....


10 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:15:56 by darkside321
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Justified how?


11 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:20:24 by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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btt


12 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:20:26 by OldCorps
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Serbs have already “accepted” way too much over the years.
Would you be telling the Israelis to “accept” that “Jerusalem” was “lost” if Jerusalem were to suffer the same fate as Kosovo?
It’s not that far-fetched of a scenario, considering what has been happening in the Middle East, in the Balkans, and in Europe these last few years.
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13 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:21:48 by Ravnagora
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By your logic, we conservatives should simply give up the fight against the health care scam and accept it and move on.


14 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:27:16 by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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Serbs have already “accepted” way too much over the years.
Would you be telling the Israelis to “accept” that “Jerusalem” was “lost” if Jerusalem were to suffer the same fate as Kosovo?
It’s not that far-fetched of a scenario, considering what has been happening in the Middle East, in the Balkans, and in Europe these last few years.
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Sorry but what will it help if you don´t accept it? Do you
really believe they will give it back to you some day because you don´t accept/like it? I hope not because this would be a pipe dream. So all it will “help” is that it will close some doors in Europe (or at least prevent opening doors because Serbia has not the best reputation in Europe anyway). OF course if this is what “you” whant and think it´s the best for Serbia, then ok i´m fine with this because its your country. There is a difference (most of Europe does not care about Jerusalem but “they” do care whats happening in their “backyard”) I do admit that nobody would have lifted only a finger if this war would have been fought in Africa but fact is it was fought in Europe so like it our not this are the consequences for the Serbs because of this war. Fair? Don´t know but fact is believe me nobody outside of Serbia (at least in most of Europe) even cares
to think about it if it has been fair or not.
This is the reality and this will not go away.


15 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:37:32 by darkside321
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You might notice the date the bombing started, March 24, 1999.
Just curious, do you know what happened on March 20, 1999 and why Hillary selected that week to begin the bombing?


16 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:39:53 by IMR 4350
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btt


17 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:40:48 by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: darkside321
it´s time that the serbs start to accept that Kosovo is lost because this is the reality and it will not change, no matter if you don´t like it, think that it was not justified or whatever..
It is sad. That land which was fought for by an independent minded Christian country to drive out the Ottoman Turks around 1912 was given to the Muslims by a crappy American president and NATO in violation of the NATO charter.

18 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:41:04 by GWConservative (It's ten forty a.m. in DC. Do you know where your Congress-critter is?)
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You’ve basically missed several points:
(1) The intent of the article is to highlight that the DEMOCRATIC president lied and the media swallowed his lies hook,line & sinker without raising any questions.
(2) what the DEMOCRATIC president did was ILLEGAL, again without any consequences to him.
(3) those lies and illegal actions are now accepted as “truth” and have set hideous precendent which reverberates in today’s world.
(4) his actions set up the Islamization of the Balkans, which, as a result, is now a major training ground for terrorist training & planning against Europe.
(5) The purpose of the article is to remind us of these truths and to encourage us to standfast to prevent it happening again anywhere else under this current pseudo-Messianic DEMOCRATIC president.


19 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:43:49 by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: montyspython
By your logic, we conservatives should simply give up the fight against the health care scam and accept it and move on.
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No because this are 2 totally different matter of facts.
You can fight against this health care scam because it´s
a domestic thing, There for maybe a court, the next election... can really change something.
But the Serbs have no say about this.
It was taken by force from “foreigners” and believe
me they don´t give a rats a$$ if the serbs like it or not.
This is why i said it makes no sence to still “battle” it.
Because simple there is NO chance that you can win as long as nobody is interessted what you might have to say or if you like it. Just for example would the US hand over some territory back to mexico if the mexicans would write a petition to the US demanding it? I guess not.


20 posted on 24. mart 2010 15:50:11 by darkside321
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To: Ravnagora
Socialism at home and imperial overreach abroad will soon see to it that the US is unable to stick it's nose into the affairs of other nations, like yours.
When the day comes, you guys get Kosovo back, if you want it. My advice? Ethnically-cleanse it of albanian scum for real this time. Don't have to kill them, just send them back to their own country, where they belong.
Many of us Americans were vocal opponents of the criminal US assault on Serbia, and are deeply ashamed of the crimes WE committed against the Serbian people.

21 posted on 24. mart 2010 16:00:19 by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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One of the best-kept secrets of the Clinton administration’s debacle in the Balkans is that most of the so-called “neo-conservatives” who later polluted the Bush administration were strong supporters of it.


22 posted on 24. mart 2010 16:07:07 by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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So both sides killed 2000. And then we came in and killed another 1000.


23 posted on 24. mart 2010 16:11:10 by DannyTN
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“One of the best-kept secrets of the Clinton administration’s debacle in the Balkans is that most of the so-called “neo-conservatives” who later polluted the Bush administration were strong supporters of it.”
You’re right. McCain wanted to put troops on the ground in Kososvo.


24 posted on 24. mart 2010 16:14:26 by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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You’re right. McCain wanted to put troops on the ground in Kososvo.
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As far as i know the US still has some troops in Kosovo.


25 posted on 24. mart 2010 16:23:12 by darkside321
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Yes, there are troops in Kosovo.
McCain wanted a fighting force instead of air bombing.
But then he was getting big bucks from Albanian terrorists.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970022/posts


26 posted on 24. mart 2010 16:28:35 by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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"it´s time that the serbs start to accept that Kosovo is lost because this is the reality and it will not change, no matter if you don´t like it, think that it was not justified or whatever...."
It took the Serbs 400 years to get it back from invading Muslims last time. I'm guessing that it will take a little less than that this time -- but the time will come, make no mistake.
Kosovo was not ours to take or ours to give away.

27 posted on 25. mart 2010 19:53:17 by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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December 02nd 2009 05:49:36 PM
“Anti-American” Serbia Still not Giving up on America. Let’s Hope it’s not in Vain
Posted by Julia Gorin

Someone at the Cleveland Plain Dealer is paying attention:
Serbia’s best efforts to please the West go largely unacknowledged (Elizabeth Sullivan, Sep. 27)
The perplexity of Serbia’s leaders is understandable.
More than eight years after they hustled Slobodan Milosevic off to the Hague to face war crimes charges and the end of his life in a jail cell — a middle-of-the-night act with questionable legal authority that met with much applause from the West — Serbia’s “democratic reformers” remain smeared with the tar of Washington’s former policy delusions.
They get no respect, even after holding democratic elections, remaking their economy on a Western model with more vehemence than most of the rest of the Balkans combined and slavishly doing almost all that the West has asked of them.
That disconnect in turn imperils the democratic experiment and makes regional stability all the harder to achieve, Serbia’s president said in an interview last week.
“If I’m going to put something on the table — on Serbia’s political table — without a consensus, that is not going to be our contribution to consensus, that is going to be our contribution to the instability of the future,” President Boris Tadic said in Cleveland last week before traveling to New York for the opening of the U.N. General Assembly. “That’s why we need a very careful and very patient policy from the United States.”
What he’s getting instead is a U.S. cold shoulder on Serbs’ biggest issue - the unilateral partition of Serbia last year, spearheaded by the United States, to grant unilateral independence to Kosovo.
Possibly even more troubling, many of the same U.S. policy-makers who mangled policy in the Balkans when Bill Clinton was president now are busily applying to Afghanistan and Pakistan some of the same “tenets” of armed nation-building and nanny statedom as dictated from Foggy Bottom.
And while the challenges and security implications of the Balkans in the 1990s and Central Asia in the 2000s are more dissimilar than alike, it’s troubling to realize how much of Washington still prefers delusion to reality — especially when it can be spun into black-and-white, good-versus-bad terms.
…Serbia’s aggrieved leadership team deserves attention — if only to parse out exactly how deluded policy becomes bad decision-making over time.
Objectively, Serbia has done most everything “right” since 2000, when voters in the most populous and geographically largest of the ex-Yugoslav republics ousted Milosevic. It’s held a string of successful democratic elections largely untainted by fraud; made peace with its neighbors; apologized for Serb atrocities in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo; and prosecuted perpetrators (albeit with mixed results). It’s busy building a shiny, new superhighway into the heart of the rest of Europe — a physical statement about how the majority of Serbs see their future.
Unlike the old Serbia, which stoked the fires of war among fellow Serbs [it did not] as the former Yugoslavia began to dissolve, this Serbia hasn’t gone to war over Kosovo, but continues to advocate dialogue and diplomacy.
“Serbian democracy has reacted to the Kosovo declaration of independence in a way that nobody had ever reacted to anything of that sort in the history of the Balkans,” said Vuk Jeremic, the Serbian foreign minister.
“This is the first time in the history of the Balkans that a thing like this happens and nobody goes to war with anybody,” Jeremic added.
But because Serbia has been unable to capture two of the 46 people wanted by a U.N. tribunal in the Hague for war-crimes prosecutions — the rest were handed over or turned themselves in — the idea that it’s stonewalling continues.
“The United States administration knows very well what we are doing in order to capture Ratko Mladic, because we have cooperation in that,” said Serbian President Tadic. He said the lack of public acknowledgement of that cooperation continues to drive a misperception that Serbia is not doing its best to snare the Bosnian Serbs’ wartime general, accused in the Bosnian war’s worst atrocity [sic], at Srebrenica, where more than 7,000 Muslim men and boys may have been slaughtered. [Not.]
“Why would we avoid arresting Ratko Mladic when we already arrested Milosevic and [Bosnian Serb wartime political leader Radovan] Karadzic?” Tadic asked.
“When you underestimate the nuances and the convoluted history of a complicated place like Bosnia, you pay a certain price,” Jeremic said. […]
A few days earlier, President Tadic gave a very respectable speech at Columbia University, while in New York to address the General Assembly. He exemplifed the measured approach that Ms. Sullivan, above, attributed to him:
Serbian President At UN Balances Outreach To West, Anger On Kosovo (Sep. 25)
…[Tadic expressed] a desire to reengage with the West after so often being isolated by it over conflicts in the former Yugoslavia.
Speaking on September 23 at the World Leaders Forum 2009 hosted by Columbia University, Tadic said U.S. companies, and their investments, play an important role in Serbia’s economic life.
And he said those economic ties could provide a basis for renewed political cooperation with Washington.
“This could set the stage for the formulation of a new American policy towards Serbia and the rest of the western Balkans, one that will hopefully take into account more than at present the interests of Serbia as the central strategic factor of stability in our region,” Tadic told the forum.
But Tadic also stood firm on Kosovo.
“Let me make it clear that Serbia will never, under any circumstances, implicitly or explicitly recognize Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence,” he said.
Repeatedly asked by students whether a partition of Kosovo would be an acceptable solution to Belgrade, Tadic restated his “no” again and again.
“But I am suggesting no partition,” he said. “No partition anymore. We are suffering very much because of attempt of partition, attempt of secession. This is not sustainable solution in the Balkans region [or] everywhere else.”
Tadic’s effort to strike a new balance with the West needs a name to help explain it, and Tadic gave it one. He told the Columbia University forum his approach is cooperation with “divergence” of views.
The question now is whether that approach is enough to bridge the many deep differences between Serbia and the West over Kosovo.
Tadic has told Serbian media he will use his UN address to stress Serbia’s “fundamental political principles and its defense of national interests” regarding Kosovo.
He also said this year’s assembly session is of great importance to help prevent further countries from recognizing Kosovo.
A day earlier, Tadic spoke in Cleveland in similar tones, and one can see that Serbia is not yet ready to give up on the U.S., but at the same time it will not give up its identity in the process:
Serbia not to give up defense of sovereignty
‘Serbia shall continue to lead the policy of peace, understanding and integration with the EU, but shall not give up its legitimate national interests in defending its sovereignty, territorial integrity and identity’, Serbia President Boris Tadic said in Cleveland.
Blic Online | Author: E. B. | 22.09.2009 - 08:34
At [a] reception organized for representatives of [the] Serbian Diaspora attended also by Senator George Voinovich and Ohio National Guard Commander Gregory White, Tadic pointed out that ‘Serbia shall not lead a policy that would expose people to risks’ but ‘a policy that defends national and state interests in a rational and dignified manner’.
‘We want to join the EU with our identity and culture. I see no alternative to such policy’, Tadic added and asked the Diaspora in Ohio to deliver that message to all Serbs living in the US.
‘We are leading a policy of peace and we are defending Kosovo with diplomatic and political means. Today Serbia is a democratic country wanting to become the EU member. Serbia wants to be a strong partner of the USA. We have to solve some problems, but I am positive that we shall be real allies in the end’, Tadic pointed out. […]
My point about Serbs being asked to give up their identity — something I’ve called de-Serbifying in the past — is illustrated by an analogy that Jim Jatras put forward in terms of what we and the EU are asking of Serbia. We’re telling them, “You can join the club. You just have to cut off your right arm and cut out your heart first.”
Another way that the de-Serbification plan works is thus, according to blogger William Markiewicz:
Serbian society today is divided; they follow Europe because they see how well it served their enemies but they don’t understand that now it doesn’t matter any more. They are dispensable. They are brainwashed by the demagogues and don’t understand that once they become part of the European community they will remain pariahs with a poison that penetrates deep into the soul. They already believe too much in Serbian guilt. In the future they may deny their Serbian origins and even stop being Serbs. This is what I meant when I wrote, ”Sixty years later the Second World War brought destruction of Serbia.”
Indeed, a friend who was about to publish a Serb’s Kosovo diary has been asked by his family to hold off. Because his brother has now joined a “pro-Western,” anti-Serb political party. And this is nothing new; all of George Soros’s anti-Serb NGOs, foundations and news organizations in the Balkans are staffed with Serbs who sold out their nationhood.
As I quoted Nebojsa Malic before about Serbia’s “European future”:
No way those Islam-appeasing, welfarite [European] cowards would ever want ornery cusses like the Serbs anywhere near them. Serbia’s territory, yes — but its people? Hell no.” Malic explains that the plan is to figuratively “kill off” the Serbs, that is to “make them stop being Serbs, and become ‘Europeans’ or some such nonsense,” all the while killing off as many as collaterally possible. “Without Kosovo, the whole Serbian history stops making sense. And if one accepts the 1990s lie about the Serbs as genocidal aggressors, then the youth can be indoctrinated in being perpetually ashamed. Give it a decade or two, and the Serbs that remain won’t be any more Serb than their kin who adopted Catholicism or Islam in centuries past.”
As I’ve said before, moving closer to Russia is not where Serbia saw itself being in 2009; it’s not what it ever wanted — it’s what we forced it to do. This is apparent even to those whose mission isn’t to ask why, but to do or die. Herewith, a July 2007 letter that I was forwarded by American Thinker, from a National Guard soldier whom I’ll call “T” (this is a different soldier from the one whose letters I was publishing that year):
I am a Kosovo Veteran and I tried in vain to convey the debacle of Kosovo. But if there is any question in her [Julia’s] mind as to why Kosovo happened, I have boiled it down to this;
A general officer without a war is like a astronaut without a mission patch.
A general who is part of the “cult of Clinton” will get the war he wants.
A war waged under the “cult of Clinton” is always right no matter the cost or failure; witness Somalia, witness the Balkans, witness Tomahawks smashing sand.
It is just politics and in the end, the general got his war and the world became a much more dangerous place.
After I wrote a note to T thanking him, he wrote:
I remember the first time I started having a cognitive disconnect with the party line and reality; I was driving through the province between Urosevac (Farazai) and Pristina and I noticed lots and lots of new mosques. Having just redeployed from Iraq, I was pretty sensitive to the appearance of mosques and I started asking questions and began to hear the other side of the story.
I saw much anger on the part of the Serbian interpreters in Gilane [Gnjilane/Gilan] and their questions for me like, “Don’t you see where this is headed?”, then the realization that the French were actively and aggressively protecting Serbs in Mitrovica. The list goes on and on and on, but what really got to me was the notion that under UN control Kosovo has turned into the largest trans shipment point for drugs, people, guns, gas, wood, cigarettes in Europe. 70% of the province is unemployed but everyone drives a nice car and [can] afford gas??? The Serbs are always bad and the Albanians always good, even when they are trying to kill a couple of little old ladies in Urosevac who then had to seek asylum in the Greek camp for years. The pinnacle of this was the fact that the US KFOR Commander was always afforded an Albanian Cultural Advisor but I never saw a Serbian Cultural advisor.
I started getting very concerned when I actually read UN 1244 and the UN charter and started to realize that there were serious legal implications and perhaps breaches of law if independence were pursued. At that point I began to feel that I was likely party to an illegal action; fortunately final status was not determined before I redeployed. If I were called to return under the same circumstances I might feel very inclined to obtain a US Federal Attorney for review of the lawfulness of the deployment order.
It was far too easy to vilify Milosevic and throw the Serbian baby out with the bath water. If we are to believe the Serbian Orthodox Church then some 150 churches have been destroyed and 300 Mosques built in the time since the war. When I was there it was estimated that to fix the canal system for their agriculture would have cost $40 million USD, we didn’t do that, but we spent $12 million USD on the gravel at Camp Bondsteel alone.
Oh I could go on and on and on. Suffice it to say that I spent every month that I was in Kosovo wishing that I was back in Iraq. Iraq made far more sense to me.
Kosovo left a very poor taste in my mouth as a soldier and an American Taxpayer.
After I emailed the soldier this week, he wrote back that he would like to make it clear that his opinions are his own and that he does not speak for the US Army. He added:
The fact of the matter is that we are living in treacherous times and I would never want to bring shame to my service, my fellow warriors or my nation.
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I am not a Serbophile but I do see their point of view and the bottom line is that we had an opportunity to open very clear channels into eastern Europe by backing the Serbs in a better fashion. As it is we turned our backs on a nation that wanted to enter NATO’s sphere and sent them packing right back into the arms of the Russians.
Once again, let’s recall that Yugoslavia was known by us to be the most “pro-Western” country in all the Communist bloc, perhaps second to only Poland. But we easily forgot that, just as we forgot its usefulness to us as a buffer against Soviet Russia. Yet another hole in the “traditional allies” oversimplification about Serbo-Russian relations.
I’ll close by quoting a relevant letter intended for the Seattle Times by author Chris Deliso, which he penned in response to some typical hack job the paper printed days after the independence declaration, titled “Europe Must Confront a Thug“:
…Finally, it [has] frequently been stated that the Albanians are the ‘pro-Americans’ of the Balkans. That, however, has never been put to the test. In actual fact, the Albanians love America to the extent to which America will gang up on their own local enemies. [Were] America to suddenly change its policy and oppose Kosovo independence, would the Albanian love affair continue? Would they still wave the [S]tars and [S]tripes and name their streets after American presidents? I think not.
On the other hand, the Serbs, who have suffered since the early 1990s a succession of US-enforced aggressions — crippling economic sanctions, a NATO bombing of mostly civilian targets, and now, the forced seizure of their historic Kosovo province — still remain open to investment, engagement and cooperation. Can one possibly imagine a similar situation, had the shoe been on the other foot and the Albanians been the ones to suffer NATO’s wrath? Highly unlikely.
However, what you have succeeded in doing in this poisonous and ignorant piece is to make sure that unknowing Americans continue to fear and demonize the Serbs. It will be a real pity if such uninformed comment prevents otherwise well-meaning Americans from knowing who their friends in the Balkans, both historically and in the long term, truly are. If you do not believe me, I invite you to visit Serbia and see for yourself. Provided you go with an open mind, you may well be in for a pleasant surprise. In any case, you owe it to your readers to not demonize an entire nation before you have done so.
Sincerely,
Christopher Deliso, Director
www.balkanalysis.com
Skopje, Macedonia
As Chris emailed me further to the point:
I don’t know if you caught a detail that seemed highly revealing to me. A Spanish news crew in Kosovo was turned away by an Albanian because the latter said something like ‘Albanians only talked to people from countries that had recognized them.’ If we apply this to the case of America, and what if American policy was somehow different, we cannot believe that they are truly pro-American deep down, now can we?
The Albanians are not ‘pro’ or ‘anti’ any third party based on that third party’s merits, they are pro or anti based on what that group does for them… So they love America to the extent to which America bombs their enemies (the Serbs). American policy is actually driven by fear (esp. for the guys on the ground), precisely, that they had better keep them happy… we could just as easily end up like those poor Spaniards nobody wanted to talk to because of a decision their government made.
This is the baffling thing: Serbs, like most people, can judge between an individual and a government policy… they might not like US policy, but if I as an American don’t do anything to piss them off, they won’t hate me just for being American. The media presents it as exactly the opposite, of course, because they are suckered by visible external displays of flags and so on.
“Kosovars will love either candidate as long as they continue to love us.” — Shpend Ahmeti, economist with Institute for Advanced Studies, Pristina, on the 2008 U.S. election
Indeed, let’s be honest. Wouldn’t this kind of worship suggest something a little more than “pro-Americanism”?

Clinton wall

Clinton street

Clinton statue

Clinton cake

Clinton eating himself up

Clinton in the palm of Albanian hands

Future battered Albanian wives grateful to the man who’s keepin’ it primitive

Clinton in a burqa
So let’s be honest. Is this really pro-Americanism for Americanism’s sake? Especially given that until Barack Obama, Bill Clinton had been the most anti-American president in history, rivaled only by Jimmy Carter.
Then again, America in the Balkans exhibits decidedly un-American behavior.
Stay tuned for the next chapter: Albanian Town Plans Statue of Bush
TIRANA (Reuters) - The small Albanian town of Fushe-Kruje plans to erect a statue of former U.S. President George W. Bush to commemorate his June 2007 visit, when he was feted as a hero in an outpouring of love for America.
Mayor Ismet Mavriqi said seven Albanian sculptors had entered the competition for the statue he plans to unveil in Bush Square in the town center on June 10 LINK, 2010, the third anniversary of Bush’s visit.
“If [I] had the final say, I would very much like a three-meter statue, probably in bronze, that captures his trademark way of walking with energy,” Mavriqi told Reuters on the phone.
The municipality has already finished the blueprints for rebuilding the square where the statue will stand, he added.
A cafe in Fushe-Kruje and a street in the capital Tirana are already named after Bush.
When Bush visited Fushe-Kruje, he dived into a throng of waiting Albanians and enjoyed a rock-star reception — a stark contrast with the noisy protests that dogged him elsewhere on that European trip.
The bakery and the cafe where Bush stopped to talk with the owners and a barber, a shepherd and a tailor whose businesses were funded by U.S. micro-loans, have become landmarks visited by Albanians, ethnic Albanians from Kosovo and foreigners.
Albanians have a special affection for the United States, which they credit not only with ending their Cold War isolation but also with leading NATO in 1999 to rescue the Kosovo Albanians from ethnic cleansing [sic] by Serbia.
Kosovo, which declared independence from Serbia last year, set up a giant statue of former U.S. president Bill Clinton to thank him for his role in NATO’s 1999 air war.
Bush, on the first U.S. presidential visit to post-communist Albania, backed independence for Kosovo and urged Kosovo Albanians to be patient. The United States was one of the first countries to recognize Kosovo’s independence.
FLASHBACK: May 7, 2007:
Text of report by Serbian independent news agency FoNet (via BBC Monitoring)
Strasbourg, 11 May: Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Draskovic today said that threats by the United States of America to unilaterally recognize Kosovo independence in case of Russian veto at the United Nations Security Council were part of “pressure play” and nothing more than that.
Draskovic told a news conference at the Council of Europe that the USA was the greatest democratic country in the world which could not undermine international order and the UN Charter.
“I cannot even imagine that the USA would undermine the foundations of the Statue of Liberty in New York,” Draskovic noted.
He stated that the whole US tradition was against “the law of the jungle”. […]
So much for that.
*Update*
Part of a letter from reader Dragan:
Serbia was never really American enemy. On the contrary. Under communist regime of Tito, Serbs were always eager to adopt the example of American democracy, which once really existed. Even today after the 78 days of NATO bombing there is a great deal of Serbs who prefer USA to Russia. Yes, Serbia is making huge efforts to please the West, showing that way that it is closer to it then to China or East, and yet America prefers those whose leader shook hand with Adolph Hitler, and those who fought Yanks during two World wars.

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man who says he is Lucifer

Supriem Rockefeller in Jerusalem
His full name is Supriem David Rockefeller, a 34 year old man who says he is Lucifer redeemed, the Messiah the world has been waiting for and the Bible has been telling us about. He is supposedly the man secret societies have been anticipating and prepared for since ancient times. He says he is the one who rebelled against God, The Universal Father and caused the Wars in Heaven. He is the one who created ‘sin’ and is the reason the world is in the shape it’s in. According to himself, after thousands of years in exile, he has now returned in the body of Supriem Rockefeller, but has redeemed himself. Instead of bringing the world to its knees and fulfill the End Time Prophecies, he has decided to save the world he once had the purpose to destroy. Upon all this, he is also the Jewish Messiah. As you may know, the Jewish religion does not acknowledge Jesus Christ as being their savior or Messiah — they are still waiting for their Messiah to show up.
People I have corresponded with, who know him, tell me that Supriem has two sided to him – he can be very charming and likable, someone you want to be friends with, while the other side of him is a ruthless businessman with a strong vision with which nothing and no one is allowed to interfere.
I thought this sounded pretty strange when I started looking into him, but I have now researched this matter for months, endlessly and tirelessly, and come to the conclusion that Supriem “is for real”. If it was only him, it would be easy to write him off as delusional already from the start, but when I found out that the Military, NATO, The UN and more are now supporting him behind the scenes, I had to seriously reconsider. This man is on a mission and he is determined to reach his goals!
But is he really who he says he is or what is going on? To answer that question we need to back up and start from the beginning. You who read the blog I pulled, Lucifer’s Redemption”, recognize some of the information presented, but please don’t skip, because there are new sections within the “old” sections as well as entirely new sections — therefore I advise you to read everything again so you don’t miss out.
The Letter to Leo Zagami
Leo Zagami is an “Illuminati” defector, who used to be one of the Top Players in the European “Illuminati”. He was born into, and one of the heads of the European “Illuminati” Power Elite and the Grandmaster of the notorious Freemasonic P2 lodge in Italy as well as The Knights of Malta. After he left his positions, he started going public with inside information and that’s when I came to know him through email correspondence. I am always alert with defectors, because it could be a psy op with the purpose to spread disinformation to discredit researchers, but Leo Zagami started out as a real whistle-blower, although he seems to have fallen off the track lately as we shall see. It sounds he may have sold himself to Intelligence Agencies to accomplish a certain agenda.
Leo Zagami was raised within the occult Brotherhood and knows nothing else. To break out from that lifestyle is a huge accomplishment and requires a lot of courage. And he has paid for it. He fled to Norway where the Brotherhood took his son and wife away from him and he eventually had to flee from Norway too.
He is of Italian blood and hot tempered. He is now creating his own organization, his own “Illuminati” to fight the Vatican, which he believes is the root to the evil of this world. I am convinced he started out with good intentions — I have communicated with him a lot — and was truly putting his life at stake, and I commend him for that. However, he and I have always had different opinions how to fight these Powers. I am a pacifist (more about that later), and don’t believe in war and that “the end justifies the means”, while Zagami was fighting back the only way he knows — with intelligence and force. He has been threatening his former “Brothers”, saying he will kill them if he gets a chance, and that, of course, makes him a target for those who understand that he was serious. But that was when he was a serious defector. Rumors, many of them from reliable sources, say that Zagami was forced to sell himself to work for the CIA and that he is no longer to be trusted. I can’t confirm this, but I can truly see he is now a totally different person than he was when he and I communicated, shortly after he had defected.
As an example, I want to draw your attention to a certain YouTube video showing an interview with Zagami while in jail in Italy for calling the Italian Government corrupt. But he also thinks that he is the direct bloodline of Jesus Christ, The Holy Grail — not the Merovingians — and therefore is the new Messiah who will take over after the Tribulation. This is one explanation why Supriem Rockefeller is his arch enemy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM&feature=player_embedded]. He has also started a resistance group with Benjamin Fulford, which in my opinion is very fishy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEU-85X8Gcc.

Leo Zagami
Before we go on, I need to explain a term that is commonly used by researchers in general. The term is “Illuminati”. This is an unfortunate choice, as it makes us attack the wrong group. The Power Elite we are usually talking about when we say Illuminati don’t call themselves that – their inner circle call themselves Priesthood of Amen. That’s what they have called themselves for a long time, since they infiltrated the original Priesthood more than a thousand years ago under the leadership of Charles Martel. Just like Freemasonry was infiltrated once, so was the Priesthood of Amen. Therefore we have two sections of the Priesthood today and there is an internal power struggle because of this. But more about this in Chapter II.
The real Illuminati is the Bavarian Illuminati, which was created by Adam Weishaupt in the 1700s and is an Order based more on “reason” and “science” than the occult, although it is an occult order as well. The Bavarian Illuminati still exists and is working behind the scenes to counter the current Power Elite (the 13 Bloodlines) to establish their own New World Order and One World Government based on meritocracy rather than democracy. According to people within the modern version of “Weishaupt’s Order”, they were behind the French Revolution and the American Revolution as well. The Order existed long before Adam Weishaupt, but restructured themselves under him and took the name “Illuminati”, the “Enlightened Ones”. Their agenda goes outside the scope of this story and will not be mentioned here any further. The reason I bring them up is because from now on I will use the terms Illuminati and Priesthood of Amen sometimes interchangeably, but they both, for my purpose, point to the same group, which is the Priesthood of Amen and the 13 Bloodlines, and never intend to mean the Bavarian Illuminati. If you want to read more about the modern Bavarian Illuminati, go to this website, http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/ and you can also read OSHO’s website: http://www.osho.com/magazine/oshointro/VisionGoldenIndex.cfm.
Leo Zagami received an email from Supriem Rockefeller in late 2008, trying to recruit him and his organization. This email was first sent to Michael N. Prescott, who at that time was Supriem’s business partner and self-proclaimed Prophet. On directions from Supriem, Prescott forwarded this email to Zagami, who refused to cooperate. At that point Prescott wrote a nasty email back to Zagami which context was so obscure that Supriem’s PR department had to write Zagami and apologize for Prescott’s behavior. Zagami, hot tempered and on a contrary mission to Supriem’s, made Supriem’s email public.
Here is the conversation in full, which is also posted on this site. After I had read it myself for the first time, I contacted Zagami, who confirmed the email and told me Supriem is now his arch enemy:
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:42:59 -0600
From: Supriem Rockefeller
To: Michael N Prescott
Subject: Re: “Buy Sell”
Forward this to them-
As you may know, the Vatican has been hiding the truth from the public about the Messiah. They have implanted into the public’s mind that Jesus was the Messiah, which they know not to be true. The word Vatican means ‘House of the Serpent’ which the Pope even has the Serpent on his chest plate and he carries the Sun staff, the symbol of Marduk Ra.
I was Marduk Ra but became Amen Ra once I was sentenced into exile. Amen just means ‘The Hidden One’.
They pledge their allegiance to me by placing the obelisk in St Peters Court inside the Sun Circle surrounded by the Celestial Cross.
The German order called ‘Thule Orden’ and ‘Vril Society’ know who I am, n fact, they found me after they had access to the Vatican’s vault and read about me. The text form [sic] 2026 BC said ‘In the Second Coming, he will call himself ‘Supriem’ and come from the west’. No matter how you spell Supriem or Supreme, it is still SPRM. They even saw drawings that looked exactly like me.
They told me that they knew I was Lucifer, the Son of G-D, leader of the 12 Elohim and keepers of the D12 Stargate. Marduk Ra was just one of my names, I am the same life force as YHWH, Samech, Moloch, Azazel, Lucifer and the Supreme Deity.
It is time for my rule again, thus those who are against it will perish. In fact I have the ability to end Earth as a planet if I see fit. The time is around the corner for my rule, Heil Imperium!!
The Thule wanted to test my DNA, so I allowed them because I knew they were important to my alliance. They found that I do carry the Triple Helix Blue Blood of the Elohim. In fact, I have more than one DNA sequence.
They knew that my several thousand year exile ends in 2009 (according to the 12/60 frequency in which I was sentenced, not the 13/20 frequency).
I have more than one DNA sequence because I am born of both Elders and Ancients (Serpent or Reptilian). I was given the DNA sequence of the REAL Trinity – Baal, Astarte, Tammuz – all into ‘One Male’ – Lucifer – The True Messiah.
2009 is the Second Coming, the exile is over. I have several races, not from Earth, that I lead and they are waiting on me. I have an army of multi- dimensional beings that are subservient to me. [These are the Alpha Draconis REPTOIDS and the Orion Group REPTILIANS.] We use magical rites to control the invisible world affected by the three dimensional world.
We have a technology that no one can stop. The ramifications of this technology used as a weapon are something out of a science fiction movie. We have to ensure that this technology stays within our working group. Someone could use this to disable aircraft from 400 miles away and there is nothing to trace, it would just look like the aircraft had a system failure and plummeted out of the sky.
Someone could use this to disable any alarm system, create a financial crisis by aiming at a stock exchange, someone could start wiping out every satellite in constellation and leave zero trace of what, where and how this happened. The 400 mile range is minimum, it can be increased via plasma antennas.
In fact, I have drafted The Allied Union constitution which is a policy making organization that unites 220 countries under one flag with an entirely digital universal currency called the ‘Allied Unit’ that works over the ‘Supriem Network’.
The ‘Supriem Network Plan’ is attached in this E-Mail. To answer a question, someone asked me about how do you get every country to comply?
Simple, first it will be obvious that this is the only way society in the future will prevail and if that is not enough, have you ever seen the movie ‘The Day Earth Stood Still’? The story maybe fiction but the warning and technology is real. Let’s say ‘Country Orange’ did not want to comply, now all of the sudden their country’s defense system and major economic institutions are paralysed by something they don’t understand or cannot figure out but they were warned in advance so they know who is controlling it. This is why I say it is imperative this technology never gets out of our hands, it is the ultimate weapon of a silent [endless] war.
What we have here is not a morality tale of right and wrong, good or evil, it is simply an ultimatum to the countries– “You either comply with us for a more efficient and proficient society or you won’t have a society. “
My group, which consists of former employees and some currently employed by various Intelligence Agencies and my own group based in Germany with Russian and Nordic sects, and a vast presence in South America and Antarctica, are wanting to speak to Lockheed-Martin about incorporating this technology on their satellite constellation so the entire globe would be covered. We can offer them a partnership.
If one satellite 300 miles above the Earth were retrofitted with one of our antennas, you could disable any electronic device in Northern America via an EMP effect. Our knowledge is based in Resonant Frequency and we have mapped the tonal range of Earth’s frequencies including gravity and how to detune and change oscillation of X, Y, Z axis.
Same principal behind the resonant tuning of point A to point B for an envelope effect of collapsed time-space, creating something similar to what you call a ‘Casimir Effect’ and understanding the ‘Impossible Space-Time Transition’ of 2×10-33 cm, 10-43 seconds. Sorry, can’t really translate equations in email.
Our ‘Vril Power’ is synergistically combining Gravity Units (GU) at positions specified by the coordinates (x1, x2, …) and (u) – a process in time, can be thought of as a matrix-valued function of dimensionality (n1, n2, …) U=(ux1×2…) (n1, n2, …).
If the status of a gravity unit varies as a function of time then, at any given instant, a ’snapshot’ of that gravity unit at that instant in time would be ui=u(ti).
You will first have to understand Gravity Units (GU) and Knowledge Units (KU) combined with Time (T) and its frequency in which you resonate.
Our concept of TIME undoubtedly presents new ideas which are unknown for you. First of all we cannot regard Time as a dimension or continuum, as you do. It is not that time is quantified, but one cannot conceive a moment as a point on the axis of time.
The interval dt, although it can tend towards zero, could never be perceived as small as we would like to. There is another aspect to this question we wish to underline.
You consider that the highest speed a sub-particle in the cosmos can reach is 299,780 kmph (speed of light) and you regard this speed as ‘constant’. This is not a poor measurement. Indeed, it is this same speed that we recorded within this same three-dimensional framework, but all one needs to do is change framework or three-dimensional system so that this limiting Speed changes remarkably up to the point where the only reference which can reflect the change of axis is the measurement of this speed or constant, C. I would have to get into the detail traveling using Resonant Frequency at another time, to complicated for email.
Back to my original topic, it is imperative that your group is our partner to keep under wraps for our working group, it doesn’t cost you anything to be part, we are not asking for money. We are going to cover the planet’s ground and sky with this spectrum, an artificial ‘aether’ if you will. I was also presented with an opportunity from the Russians, I was told Putin was the original source, for us to buy up an entire stockpile of CU 63,65 which you may know is used for satellites and in weapons.
Eglin AFB tests the SFW (Sensor Fused Weapon) which use copper as its main munition. I would like to have talks with Lockheed asap for partnership discussions.
As you can see with the news and its status quo, everything is lining up to usher in the ‘Supriem Network’.
Let’s also talk about the returns I can bring in through our ‘Buy Sell Program’, if you think it is an absurd amount on the return, you have nothing to lose to find out the truth. Like I said, we never touch your money, all we need is the proof of funds to proceed and the money never leaves your bank. This is a great way to be autonomous and self-funding to exclude external auditing. This technology I offer must always stay in our own working group that we will put together.
We are about to reshape the world. The ‘Supriem Network’ will soon be the only way for financial transactions and communications. It connects the entire planet.
Democracy has failed and it is time to show what One Ruler with a strong team backing him can do, I know you are with me. Michael Prescott is my right hand man, so you can continue working through him at this juncture, I will step in as the situation progresses.
Regards,
Supriem Samech Marduk Ra Lucifer (Finally Redeemed) Head of the True Elohim, God of Victory and Son of the Creator, G-D.
And here is Prescott’s further email correspondence with Zagami:
> From: Michael Prescott
> Subject: Tuesday
> To: Leo Zagami
> Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 6:22 AM
> Brother, Leo.
>
> My brother I am a servant like you and what a privilege it is to serve
> the true messiah, I know how the weight of this can rest on your
> shoulders my brother, but I encourage you this, he is the one answer
> for you and me as well, as the world, that will be realized, I give
> you my testimony, that the one, I speak to is Lucifer he is here, yes,
> I say it is him, since I have come to meet him in destiny, my life has
> been whole, he is worthy, ‘Supriem’ is one of his names but he is
> Lucifer and by the purity of The Luciferian Doctrine can we only find
> absolution with peace and the new world order can be realized. no
> matter what, let nothing take away from your faith, you labor hard and
> I know you do, lets work together and lets make a new day for the lord
> is here.
>
> -Fraternally,
> Michael Prescott
Saturday, 13 December, 2008 10:32 PM
From: Michael Prescott
To: Leo Zagami
Leo,
Leo we tried to bring you in on board, and work with you over there obviously that didn’t seem to workout so despite our dismay for the way things have been I would think sooner or later the brethren over there will come around and know who we are for all good intents and purposes of the NWO, We have a very large core following of loyal brethren over here in the USA and the numbers of our followers are growing so we do have an absolute core of loyal brethren to us and we will continue to work with them over here as the events of the world unfold into Supriem’s hands for he is divine deity and he is The Messiah who is here to take away the pains of the world and bring a new day for all mankind, until then we will have to meet up with you in the crossroads of cooperation later on, we just don’t eye to eye right now but I’m most certain that soon we will as the entire world learns who Supriem and I are.
Fraternally,
Bro. Michael N. Prescott
But Prescott didn’t let go with this and couldn’t help but sending the following raging email to Zagami in addition:
From: Michael Prescott
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:24:28 +0000
To: Leo Zagami
Subject: Leo The wanna be Illuminati
Dear Leo,
You are such a prideful piece of shit, fuck you, you think you can sell a story about us or somehow gain from it, I know who you are and I know who DXXXX XXXXX is and if you think for one moment you can match our power, think again, you will not want Supriems rebuke and he will mock you in your hour of decline, you of little faith always need proof, let me tell you this if you don’t believe in Supriem then you don’t believe anything and we will expell you from Rome and anyone who has any dealings with you, test us, go ahead, you tell anyone who challenges us, they will perish where they stand, and you all will bow down and worship Supriem and make for yourselves his image and worship, in honor of him, and no matter who you are great or small rich or poor king or subject alike you will all take his mark, so let me tell you Leo if you think you are going to start a shit talking campaign on us just remember rome is not that far away and when we rule this world you will have no where to hide, you and DXXXX XXXXXX, are little piss ants, DXXXXXX thinks hes some big rich CEO who is expemt from honoring Supriem well hes got it wrong also, you better tell all the Illuminati who think like you that they had better fall in line and forget who they are and there big names because to us they are nothing and we will ride right over them all combined, so we had better see some humble submission very soon because you will not want to see us face to face in your current poor blind and destitude state.
This led to that someone working for Supriem’s PR department had to write and apologize on Prescott’s behalf:
Da: brad pruitt
A: Leo Zagami
Inviato: 7 Gen 2009 23:58
Oggetto: Supriem Rockefeller wishes no harm to you.
I am a close representative of Supriem, we know that you have been contacted and even threatened. Supriem wants you to know that he never authorized anyone to make such threats and that he stands with anyone who is for the betterment of mankind. He would never authorize such threats to be made to you or your group. He wishes nothing but the best for you and your future endeavors and he would love to help if he can.
Supriem asked me personally to send this email and to make sure that you know he is not a person who would ever send threats, he prides himself on being very diplomatic. Thank you for your time and please let me know you received this email.
Regards,
Brad Pruitt
SDR Representative
So this is how it all started and these letter were what really caught my attention. I had the feeling that something was going on worth looking into. Little did I know what was to unfold.
Michael N. Prescott, Supriem’s Former Business Partner and Self-Proclaimed Prophet

Prescott
Before we continue, I need to include the short-story of Michael Prescott.
The following is a quote from Prescott’s MySpace page (this page was taken down shortly after I published my first blog on this subject), where he was telling us who he is and what his prophecies are about. He was stressing how important it is to follow Supriem in his cause and listen to the “Prophet” (Prescott):
“Behold!. I am The One True Prophet Who is at The Right Hand of The Messiah, Beheld! Come Now Worship Him & Erect For Yourselves His Image And Worship, In Honor Of Him, For He Is Worthy! The Pure Blue Bloodline of Elohim, Rejoice! For The New Aeon is Near!”
“WO To Those Who Reject Us For They Shall Meet No Quarter. WO To Those Who Lean On Their Own Understanding For They Shall See No Victory. WO To Those Who Reject This Message For They Shall Know No Peace.”
“I am awakened and I seek the few who are left to prepare them for greatness that which will extend beyond infinity there on into eternity, where freewill is known not, and will never be so again,”
“I bring the sword with my tongue and to all who willfully attempt to assume the same by no appointment are fools, I have been appointed and anointed to serve as that which I am.”
“The spirit through me expressidly constitutes itself with principle authority, not to be mistaken otherwise to be that which it’s not.”
Then he goes on quoting from the Book of Revelation and is posting a picture of Supriem dressed up like a king and wrote the letters 666 all over the image.
About a month after he pulled his MySpace page with all this information, he created a new one, which as of this day is quite empty, but I’m sure he will add a lot more information in the near future, so keep an eye on it: www.myspace.com/prophetofomega.

Prescott's Freemasonic initiation into the 32°

Freemasons from Prescott's lodge
Mr. Prescott is a high initiate in the Freemasonic Order. The above photos are from his deleted MySpace page. The top one is an initiation to the 32nd Degree Freemason, ‘Master of The Royal Secret’. In addition to being a Freemason he is also a Mormon and has close connections with the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mr. Thomas S. Monson. The Mormon Church is also connected to the Thule Gesellschaft, which we shall see later on, and Supriem himself. Utah, as most of us know, is more or less run by the Mormon Church, and this particular State is also important to Supriem and the Vril Society, as it is a secret platform for launching man-made UFOs into space. But we will talk about this in a later chapter.

Thomas S. Monson (right) and Henry B. Eyring, First Counselor (left)
Since the beginning of March 2009 and throughout that month, I communicated back and forth with Michael Prescott, discussing the matters I am writing about here, and suddenly the communication stopped for a while. Then, I received an email from one of my sources on March 4, telling me that Supriem shut down Prescott’s MySpace page because he thought Prescott’s presentation of Supriem was ‘too dark’. And when I checked, the MySpace page was indeed down, so I emailed Prescott and asked about his sudden silence. I got a reply from him, where he said: “I’m sorry I have no comment about Myspace I neither confirm nor deny even having such a page…”]. Shortly after that, however, he started talking to me again, saying he had things to tell me.
The “new” Prescott was totally different from the one on MySpace. He was now less scattered, more focused and had changed his message quite drastically. He had suddenly “turned around” and presented Supriem in a much lighter way. He wanted me to present his prophecies on this page, so here they are:
Behold! I give this prophecy to the entire world that you will see it come to pass.
Delivered by the Prophet, Michael Noel Prescott
Date: 3/10/09, 1 of 3
My brothers and sisters of the world, this message has been given by God for you to know. So now then take heed all ye who have ears to hear and eyes to see for this is prophecy. I have seen the condition of this world degrade and fall victim to itself, an economic crisis of utterly no resolve, we’re embattled by terrorism and we have all been plagued by our own pride and harmful ways which are reflected in this world in one form or another, yet we see it not, yes we have heard, but we have listen to nothing at all, how long can we ignore the signs on the wall? how long can we turn a blind eye to the iniquities we transgress with? As for me I do not know the answer myself, but I will ask you to examine yourselves searching your own motives and, what kinds of things you hold dear?
Are you hot or cold? Is your yes, yes? And you’re no, no? or perhaps you ride in between it all, standing on your own ground, in your own opinion, now is there really such a place; as third common ground?, Neutral perhaps, if you will, independent or otherwise, yes to some this is a false reality they live for, and I understand it’s origin, for here on Earth, we have many concepts of divinity, many philosophies of what’s right, what’s wrong so on and so forth and as many of them harbor a common denominator of consistent failure or otherwise, put them all together it doesn’t matter, for they all are empty promises of lies unfulfilled, do we then just forget all the humanity and blood they’ve spilled as a result of their application? By holding onto these forsaken paths of mans wisdom, which after all is only the tried and true methodology of proven utter failure bringing unwanted rebuke at the end, destruction and mockery is always going to be due, and that only by the time we again realize that we were wrong, so now then whether we admit it or not, it does not make it any less true, for truth, is not truth, before it is first lived, that fact is immutable, should we deny the wind is blowing? only because we do not see it, yet the winds of change blowing rampantly across the nations, are being felt none the less these days, are they not?.
Verily I say unto you as surely as the contents of an entire pool can be known, by just one single drop, so can now the condition of the world be also known, by just one person, who selflessly testifies to the state of his knowing and his knowing be weighed against such a wisdom that is not of his own, but rather the words of divine prophecy, which come in a time of great famine for truth, Oh how we seek the face of wisdom in the turmoil of despair when all who seek truth, will not find it, by once again contracting themselves to the great wisdom of all mans ways, lo and is it not our best understanding that has left us wanting?, yes, that along with self righteous guiding opinions, which has brought after all, the very need for prophecy in the first place.
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No longer should we, let us, lead us, now if we are both blind won’t we both end up in a hole? How can the mute tell the blind to look where he’s going? And how will the lame tell the person in front of them to ‘hurry make haste so that I can pass?’ Lo but I say we have considered such foolish things, yes pondered the unimaginable, yet we are still trying to figure out what’s the next best thing, oh how low I feel in the examination of this state, by among, and of whom, I am first to blame and the worst of the worst, yes I’ve been called that too, oh I dread the crown of thorns which I should bare to make claim too such a lowly existence, but yes I admit, there, is where I’ve been too, beloved I have failed in all these same ways, none have spared me grief, of playing out exactly, what I did not want to happen, time and time again and that would only be saying it favorably on my part, how stiff necked I have been, I have rejected wisdom, so that I paid evil to good ,and good to evil, yet seen it not, or not until it at least had done its worst unto my own shame, my own blame.
My brethren unless we reach for things we have not touched before, we simply will not know what they feel like, we have done all that has brought us here but why not do what has never brought us there, and there being, the place where we know not, but perhaps, we understand the words of prophecy, a call of change, and new direction for hope which is being given through prophecy, and now so in such ways that your faith will be challenged, but we must first heed the sound of the voice delivering the prescribed answers to what is going to be the direction you need to know, and find sound doctrine of that which you can weigh and examine in your own hearts, because I tell you the truth beloved soon this is what many of you will seek, but they will find it not, so I ask you to consider the times you see now and ask of yourself, am I on the true path? Do I even know what that means? Have I ever known truth and seen it lived to completion, so that I know that know, I cannot be wrong?
Very difficult questions my dear beloved, but at some juncture and moment in time, you will be bottle necked back, to that point, when faith is the only sound voice you can trust to lead you, which is in fact, a plan, preordained for your life, yes even the hairs on your head are numbered so wouldn’t also your life be predestined and chosen by God,? yes, indeed it is, and I am here to tell you that a new era is about to begin, and nothing is going to change that fact, in a time not far aloft from now, I will deliver you a prophecy and how great it shall be told, with humbleness, yet bold, and before the sights of all man, Gods awesome miracles will be seen, so that all who look upon them, may believe, and know him to be the Lord they have sought, is indeed finally here, Behold! so let us prepare for the hour is at hand, yes the lord is already here, but the beginning of understanding still lingers and draws near, I urge you to keep watch, be vigilant for you shall see things and wonders you have never saw before nor understood and you’ll know new things you had never once considered, yet they are revealed unto you and all the world, yes! A new era is about to commence.
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Behold! I say unto the children of God make ready! For The Messiah is about to reveal himself! Unto your knowing, Fear not for he loves you all, and is here to bring you the love he has for you through truth of divine revelation, rejoice and be glad in this, for this event rapidly approaches.
I have been patiently waiting for this word of divine prophecy to be delivered to me that I may give prophecy unto the children of God, no, I am not a teacher, nor a preacher, I want you to see the greatest prophesies ever given in all of history come to pass, test me in this, for even the stiff neck will soften, none can deny after they see the many other miracles that I will be called to show you and in all the sights of man, yes, all will know Gods love, only by the fulfillment of all I say unto thee.
Prepare to endure! For great change is coming, where the unexplainable manifests itself in many forms and fashions worldwide that being so before all the sights of man, you will know when this time arrives for it will be in such wondrous and perhaps frightening ways, thereafter I will once again speak to you all in assurance and prophecy, so do not fear this when it happens, for the lord is with thee, let it now be known, that I told you first, glory be given unto to God.
Lest you be destitute of knowledge my friends and not fare well through the earliest times for turning a deaf ear unto this divine prophecy. Beloved please make ready inside your hearts, I will bring you more word as it is delivered unto me from God, our father whose voice I hear and listen too. Fish give birth to fish, birds give birth to other birds, so then false prophets give birth to? false prophecies, Thus, let no man say, thereafter they’ve seen the foretold things of prophetic events come to pass, that which I have prophesized about before hand, that I am a liar, lo all I prophesize shall indeed come to pass, test me in all ways of this, I ask of you who doubt, please do not turn a deaf ear unto that which is foretold. Knowing this you will hearken thereafter once you have seen it and heard it, knowing it to be true.
In humble regards, your servant I am,
-Michael Noel Prescott
In a recent email from “The Prophet” he told me he hadn’t been in touch with Supriem since the end of 2008, but didn’t really explain why. I tried to figure it out and consulted someone who should know about it. This is the short and simple story he gave me:
Prescott met Supriem when Supriem was proposing investments for the Supreme Council of 33rd degree Masons. Prescott kept coming back to Supriem telling him he thought Supriem was the Messiah and that Michael wanted to spread the word. Supriem told him that was fine but do not ever contact people saying he’s doing it on Supriem’s behalf.
After Prescott threatened Zagami, Supriem had enough. He said that’s not the way I do business. So the whole Prescott meeting, and they’ve only met twice, was for business. Supriem even let Prescott try to redeem himself by being his liaison to the Governor of California’s office when Supriem was presenting a private bailout to them. Prescott, once again, failed Supriem with his behavior and that was it!
I have further been told that Supriem totally disconnected from Prescott shortly after he had raged out against Zagami and didn’t not want to have anything more to do with him. However, it seems like Supriem’s and Prescott’s destinies are to work together, whether they like each other or not, and there will probably always be a love-hate relationship between the two as we shall see later on in this book.
—> Chapter 2
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i dont know what is going on but we will know God’s son Jesus Christ is coming when He comes. He will come on a cloud so that everyone in this world will see Him, no matter where they are. Praise be to Jesus Christ.
Our destiny is being revealed. All confusions manifested are of His Creation, with an expressed purpose. This is a good sign to those who are waiting for the end of this system. We are all within the Mind of God. Nothing exists outside of Him. He is working His wonders. I utter words that somehow come from Him and so do you. Nothing exists outside of Him. He is alone. His Creation is His Obession for there in nothing else for Him to commune with. If you think a Big Bang compares–so be it, for it alters nothing. We are swimming in murky waters that will clear only when our Salvation is worked out. Let it come quickly!!!
i feel sick & dizzy the feeling i get when i know somthing is very wrong.
Buddy get away from the computer and let it sink in abit then you can come back and reread the information when you are not sick and dizzy. Some of us have had a lot longer to absorb this information. Take it from those of us who have been living with this for about 6 months now…back away from the computer and try not to drive yourself crazy. The first impact of this information can be somewhat alarming so just give yourself some time..
Rose

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I think all of this is so interesting…and quite possibly true!!??? If Supriem is “the one”…why am I not feeling it? Wes all of this is so interesting, and I go back night after night reading and absorbing…. trying to understand why???? My practical mind says no,but my intuiton say “well, why not’? Stanger things are happening here right before our eyes and we as a nation are helpless…except for our faith in God…the good omnipetent
While the world thinks about the so important Michael Jackson, unimportant things happen without being noticed ;)
House Passes Bill to Address Threat of Climate Change
Not passed yet but in the making:
Shift Possible on Holding Terror Suspects
Deckard, I know my post is quite late since you originally made your comment on June 27. But, as soon as this MJ stuff happened, my friend and I both said, “I wonder what the governments of the world are doing behind our backs?”
“All religions are valid, NONE are literal.” -Joseph Campbell
Quit reading golden-laced comic books. You are only putting blinders on. By being influenced by religion, you are helping those who have enslaved mankind. Find spirituality within yourself – NOT within a book. Believing in the masturbatory “end times” jargon allows those who CONTROL its “believers” to further condition the world into submission.
Again,
Another one telling me what to do,what not to believe in. Tell me my friend, if I find the “spirituality within myself” through issue #40 of Image Comics titled Supreme and written by Alan Moore, will you still punch my card?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_(comics)
http://www.myspace.com/prophetofomega
QUIT READING GOLDEN-LACED COMIC BOOKS.
by JL Wallace June 26, 2009 at 11:36 am
he attacks you ‘ as if ‘ you’re telling him what to do / think.
by random loser June 29, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Doesn’t sound “as if” to me Mr.Loser
Funny how the only time you comment now days is when I do.
I LOVE YOU TOO RANDOM LOSER
frog boy
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July 7, 2009 at 5:06 am | #13
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random loser,i dont mind telling you you are an offensive,insulting self-effacing know-nothing with a big mouth and nothing to say,but with too much to say about other people you know nothing about in any shape or form.Why dont you keep your views to yourself and your ugly mouth firmly shut! Noone has ever asked for your opinion yet you give it endlessly at any occasion – your ignorance shines through every time you offer us some of whats inside your tiny brain – you speak crap because your brain is full of crap – for your own sake be humble and speak when your spoken to like small children should and shut the f up!!
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